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RK800 PROTOTYPE | CONNOR ([personal profile] reconstruction) wrote in [community profile] etraya2024-10-29 11:29 pm

LIVE TEXT.

@RK800
We're live.
Hello Etraya, this is Connor. Accelerator and I would like to share our recent findings after exploring the lower floors of the hospital with Yuri and Dimitri. Clint Barton was also involved, but he is no longer here. I apologize if this is new information for you.
Please keep in mind we are strongly advising against investigation.
@Accelerator
There's dangerous shit down there. Everyone had better read this, because it's fucking important.
@RK800
Floors 1-5 are relatively empty. The 8th floor is primarily filled with alien technology, which I believe is a direct correlation to being disconnected from the network from that point onward. You will not be able to reach anyone if you are in danger.
@Acclerator
Once you get to the 8th floor the oxygen levels start to drop. The companion bots will get aggressive and attack you, too. It's like white blood cells attacking foreign entities in someone's body for protection, it's obvious we aren't supposed to be down there.
@RK800
Correct. After the 10th floor, humans were only able to continue with specialized assistance. There are 100 floors that we are aware of. The atmospheric conditions become increasingly unstable, including a change in the planet's gravitational force, with a high concentration of carbon dioxide and helium. The severe change in gravity causes an elevation of heat, and I was compromised. No one can survive it.
@Accelerator
Don't go down there unless you're prepared to deal with being in an environment like the goddamn core of a planet.
I think that's about it. Connor, you sure it's no problem altering the network so all this is public?
@RK800
Since I'm able to access the network after downloading its signature, any adjustments I've made are temporary. No permanent alterations to Etraya's actual network code has been made, so there shouldn't be any issue.


( ooc: responses will be from either/both connor and accelerator! feel free to threadjack, go wild, etc. coding credit to tessisamess )
( edit: i forgot to include this but pretty pls w a cherry on top fill out connor's permissions ♥ but if you don't that's ok, i'll reach out of we get into infomod territory! )
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-04 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, I have altogether far too many.

[ Harold perks up at this implication, because he would absolutely ask how she's getting along with it -- it's a nice, safe, diagnostic series of questions he could run in his sleep if need be. ]

Is that so? How did she come to obtain one?
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-04 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
She was trying to build one. [He still remembers the very sad robo arm trying to get parts it couldn't reach on its own.] We helped her finish it.

[No big deal at all!]
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-04 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Oh, really. Now he has a hundred questions. ]

Are you an expert in robotics? Who is 'we' -- yourself and Connor? And for what reason did she need one in the first place?

[ Giving the Machine a physical body would be hideously limiting for its purpose, and he'd assumed Aurora has a similar type of role if not exactly the same. Perhaps she can inhabit it or not as she wishes? ]
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-04 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say Connor's an expert, not me, Dimitri or Yuri. I just have a lot packed into my brain.

Haven't asked her why she was building it, but why wouldn't she want one? It must've been limiting being stuck with only a hologram and the network to interact with people. Having a body gives her more freedom than she had before.


[And he's always going to be in favour of that.]
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-04 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
[ He really wants to ask about that comment about having a lot packed into his brain, but one thing at a time. ]

Fortunate that Connor is present, then. It surprises me Aurora would be struggling. Are there not facilities for maintenance of the companion bots? Is that a concern we should have about Aurora's new form and Connor as well?

[ Once an admin, always an admin... ]

I should think it would depend on her primary function. Do you think she's gotten... well. Lonely?


[ He can't imagine what else could be motivating it, and he has mixed feelings about the idea. So mixed he couldn't begin to sort them out into separate threads, really. ]
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-04 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
She does have facilities for them, yeah, but they weren't in the best shape at the time. Things should be fine now though, and I know Connor's told me he runs self-diagnostic tests regularly.

[No more Im'mari lurking around means no more infections. Oof, it's rough balancing "don't go down into the hospital basement because Aurora's brain is there" and giving out information.]

Yes. That shouldn't even be a question.

[No mixed feelings here, he thinks it'd be perfectly natural for Aurora, if she wasn't already feeling lonely, to develop those feelings as time went on.]
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-05 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I see. If I can assist in any way, please let me know.

[ He won't pry further because he knows he risks being overbearing and condescending by doing so. He's new here and shouldn't assume he knows better. And though Harold hasn't been forthcoming about his capabilities, he's not deluded enough to think Accelerator hasn't put a few things about them together by now. He'd just prefer to leave them unspecified for as long as possible, preferably forever. ]

I wouldn't presume to imagine what an A.I. of unknown provenance experiences as emotions.
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-05 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, sure. If you look at previous posts, you'll see the one from Aurora that's all messed up binary and hexadecimal code. Any indications from her like that means there's problems.

[It's hard to miss..... If Harold is any good at what he says he does, then he should probably find it interesting. This could also be potentially useful, giving him this information.]

Chances are it's the same as other people. She might just not be that good at expressing or understanding them.
[Just like some other girls he knows.]
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-08 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Harold does go read the whole post and he does find it interesting. And highly alarming. ]

That's what led you all to your hospital investigation?

[ He debates for a long moment whether he's going to give his real opinion here, but ultimately it seems like he should. How A.I. operate is incredibly salient to their continued survival. ]

I wouldn't make that assumption. It's convenient to refer to her as "she" but Aurora is not a human being. Projecting our experiences onto her is doing us all a disservice and could be gravely misleading.
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-09 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. You can see some of us got messages in our inboxes, too. We decided her behaviour was alarming enough to check it out.

[Accelerator certainly doesn't mind talking about this. He's got some strong opinions on the subject thanks to the Sisters and Qliphah.]

If she wants us to use other pronouns for her that's fine, but I'm not going to call her 'it' right off the bat. That's fucking dehumanizing, and even though she isn't human she's still a person.
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-10 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And you were able to restore her? That is very fortunate for all of us.

[ This implies there's something to do with Aurora down in the hospital, perhaps her servers. It would be logical to protect it so thoroughly. ]

As I said, it's convenient; it encourages empathy toward her.

[ Truthfully he's not so sanguine about using she/her on Aurora just yet, but Harold isn't going to argue and make waves about it. If it came up about the Machine, who is his creation, then... he would have things to say. But it won't, so that's that. ]

My argument is only that we should not make assumptions, or impose human expectations on her. She may develop in entirely different ways.
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-10 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
[Harold is definitely on the right track.]

It wasn't easy, but it worked out.

[God, Accelerator isn't sure what to think about this. Harold's opinion isn't the same as just being suspicious of Aurora, like a lot of people around here are. It's more nuanced than that.]

How are you going to treat her, then?
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-10 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
With respect, I should think.

[ It doesn't mean he'll like her or trust her, or credit her with human emotions, but Harold is a big believer in ascribing dignity and therefore respect to sentient beings. Whether or not he understands them. ]
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-10 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see much difference between the two.

[Is that because he's fifteen and the only artificial beings he's encountered have, in fact, been extremely humanlike despite not being afforded the same dignities as an actual human? Maybe, maybe.]
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-10 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Between respect and humanizing someone, or something?

[ Harold considers this with due seriousness. ]

They are quite close much of the time. But respect means something different to different people, even among human beings. Truly respecting someone means accounting for their differences, not ignoring them.
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-11 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

[Accelerator reads through Harold's explanation, then sits back and mulls it over. Every artificial being he's known has been different from humans in some way (including artificial espers, he supposes), and from his experiences that's what's been a major cause of all the misery in their lives.]

And if their differences are what's causing other people to disrespect them?
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-12 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
That is usually the case. But we do not succeed in achieving dignity for anyone by accommodating those that judge them.

"It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize, accept, and celebrate those differences." Audre Lorde.
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-12 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't argue with that.

[Fuck those kinds of judgey people.]

Who is Audre Lorde?
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-13 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
A black lesbian mother, writer, poet, and activist renowned in the American Civil Rights movement of the 1960s-1970s.

Famous for saying, among other things, "Your silence will not protect you." I suspect you would like her work.
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-13 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds interesting.

[And despite his heavy science bent, he's not going to turn down an opportunity to read any interesting non-scientific literature.]

You see any of her stuff at the bookstore?
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-14 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Harold is equal opportunity science and humanities, and he's always eager to recommend books. ]

There might be, but I also noticed a curious new building has appeared along with Mr. Reese and I. A familiar one.

It's a defunct New York City public library location. I'm sure I can find something for you.
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-15 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
A library? There's a library here?

[Oh, that's pretty nice! Even a defunct one is better than nothing.]

Okay, that's fine.
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-15 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
There is now. It's nice to have a piece of home, I suppose. Feel free to use it as a library.

[ Normally Harold would not ever be making this invitation, but, well. In the continuing theme of his conversations with Accelerator so far, keeping himself distanced is bound to prove both fruitless and harmful. He may as well invite him in -- he's growing to like him. ]
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[personal profile] levelshift 2024-11-16 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
So it's from your New York.

[Rather than a New York. Harold is sounding rather attached to the building, so that seems like a natural conclusion.]

Alright, if you don't mind me barging in for books. There's not a lot to do around here in between missions.

[Reading is, in fact, basically his only real hobby, so he's actually very happy for this.]
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[personal profile] ornithologist 2024-11-18 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it is. [ He considers and refrains from sharing that it's normally their headquarters. There's no reason to give away personal details willy-nilly... ]

I would be pleased to have the library used as it was intended. And to provide suggestions should you need any. I'm not a trained librarian, but I'm quite familiar with this particular library's contents.

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