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[banworthy]

We're all just posing questions to each other for fun, right?

Then, is immortality wrong for mortals to experience?

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[mostdangerousbird]

"Wrong" is a subjective term here; I don't think it's wrong. I also don't think it makes anyone happy or really does them much good at all, unless they don't care about others as individuals.

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[banworthy]

Right. It's subjective.

So, why don't you think it's wrong since you don't think it's "good?"

[mostdangerousbird]

Because there's no inate ethical objection to someone being immortal if you aren't adherent to a religion that prescribes that humans CAN'T live forever.

If someone's immortal through metahuman ability, that's not their fault and they have to make the best of it. How someone makes the best of that - I don't know. Haven't actually seen someone pull it staying a decent person after a couple hundred years.

If they make themselves immortal by choice, isn't it already obvious? Unless they're going to make everyone they care about immortal at the same time, they're going to watch everyone they know die. Maybe they'll try to have another life. But after the first few iterations, how long until they completely divest their kind on an individual level? Start thinking they're above it all. Scratch that, they already think they're above it all if they don't make everyone they care about immortal.

[banworthy]

It seems like you understand but are not willing to understand.

The wrongness isn't necessarily ethical, but something beyond that -- and I don't mean religion. Humans or mortals are not meant to be immortal. It may not be their fault as you say, if they acquire the ability, but it is not something they should be.

Right?

[mostdangerousbird]

If you're asking me? Wrong. If it's not their fault, I'm not going to say that they're wrong for existing as they are. It's a slippery slope between "it's not right for someone to be this type of metahuman" because of nature/gods/whatever and "so what do we do about it?"

And once a group decides to do something about it, how soon until they move onto the next "not right"? Most humans can't fly. Are the ones that can wrong?

[banworthy]

No need to extrapolate to the worst possible situation or change the argument to something else. I'm just asking this, not saying that it needs anything done about it.

Perhaps, the word is the problem.

Do you equate it to being "bad" or "sinful," maybe? Should we just use "not right?"

[mostdangerousbird]

The word isn't the problem. You don't need to play semantics with me.

Why are you asking about it?

[banworthy]

But it's a fun game to play.

[ He chuckles. ]

Just curious about people's thoughts on it, of course.

Why else does anyone ask anything?

[mostdangerousbird]

It's a fun game to win.

[ It's a frustrating game to lose or draw at, which is usually why Tim plays it, but he's not interested in giving vsmith what he's looking for. Not fun, and not a real answer either.

You ask questions for two reasons: information-seeking or conversation-steering. Tim thinks it's the latter. So they'll go with subreasons. ]

Boredom, I guess. Compulsion for some. Societal expectations of polite conversation.

[banworthy]

Oh, I agree.

[ Maybe because he just enjoys being irritating, who knows? It might just be a problem with his personality - but he isn't going to take the time to analyze that ever. ]

That's all still a level of curiosity in knowing someone's answer.

All the same, you seem very worried about - what is it you said? - meta-people and how they're treated? Does that mean that you're also someone that's [ Heh. ] special?

[mostdangerousbird]

That's the real question, isn't it?

[banworthy]

And no answer for me? How heartless.

[mostdangerousbird]

Oh, I'm definitely not Heartless.

[banworthy]

... did you cut a heart out of somebody?

And now Tim thinks he's from Bludhaven.

[mostdangerousbird]

No, I said I'm NOT Heartless.

i know not what that means, but glorious.

[banworthy]

I know.

I was making a joke.

You're not heartless because you have a heart.

It's not as fun when I have to explain my morbid jokes, you know.

[mostdangerousbird]

I know. That's why I made you do it.

[banworthy]

So, you like being thought of as stupid?

I guess everyone has their kinks.

[mostdangerousbird]

That's a lot of assumptions. Good luck with that.

[banworthy]

Thanks.

Appreciated, really.

Anyway, now that we're away from that - anything else you want to ask me?

[mostdangerousbird]

No. I'm stupid, remember?

[banworthy]

I do.

This usually means you have questions, but if your mind is blank, begone!