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[equivo]

Before we all head into the labyrinth, I figure we should have a level playing field for making calls about risk.

If you die here, apparently you don't stay dead. You're down for two days or so, then you resurrect wherever your body happens to be. So it's probably a nice gesture, if you see a corpse in the maze, to drag them somewhere not totally inconvenient to wake up.

The temporarily dead also come back fully healed of injuries, but the penalty is some kind of personal loss. Think scars, tattoos, a digit, possibly more intangible qualities, etc. I have no idea what the rules are on that, so if anyone has any useful speculation, consider the floor open.

In fact, if anyone is familiar with this kind of thing back in your universes, you're invited to share with the class. The more we know about resurrection in general, maybe the more we can figure out about how it works here. Bonus marks if you have first hand experience.

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[counterstep]

how many dead bodies do you think people are going to run into???

if it's about teamwork, and you find a body anyway, it means someone probably abandoned them

which probably won't do well for their whole 'saving my universe' thing and seems very unlikely

[equivo]

It's a labyrinth. I'm assuming there's a minotaur. It'd be great if the number of bodies was 'zero', but I'm being realistic.

And you'd think that, but that depends on people being smart. Not everyone is really grasping the 'teamwork' concept.

[counterstep]

if there's a minotaur, I'll eat my shoe

( crosses his fingers... )

alright I'll give you that
people are all sorts of stupid

so I also expect there'll be plenty of people that don't even read this post and so do nothing about any dead bodies

though I'd probably expect the same even with people reading it
cause dead bodies aren't pleasant and it's nothing like TV so they're probably not gonna do great with the smell

( ... )

[equivo]

I don't know if you were around last time, but Aurora told us that we were doing a 'get to know each other' challenge and then our evil clones showed up. I wouldn't commit to the hypothetical shoe eating, personally.

As for the rest, I've done my bit. People can do what they want about it.

Hopefully not bury anyone 'alive', for example, even if they don't feel up dragging them around further than that.

[counterstep]

yeah I was here
but I like a challenge

( and he also crossed his fingers, so it's fine because that's how that works. )

what if they end up buried because of whatever obstacle they're in anyway?
cause it'd be hard to find a body that way regardless

do they make metal detectors for people
people detectors

[equivo]

But the minotaur crosses a line?

And, well. Like you said. There's the smell.

If it's possible to get them out, I'm just saying it's probably the kind of thing that counts towards teamwork.

[counterstep]

does it?
I think taking down a minotaur could actually be kinda fun

might be worth asking if we can go back in for stragglers if we make it to the end too quickly

[equivo]

Yeah. You could be a real modern day Theseus.

Apparently, that's not an option, so if you want to look for stragglers you better do it before you step out the exit.

[counterstep]

frankly, given the nature of these missions, a minotaur really seems like the least of our worries
there are others here who wouldn't really have trouble with one either, so I wouldn't really consider myself Theseus unless no one else stepped up to the plate

you don't plan on doing that, sounds like

[equivo]

True. There could be a dragon, or a displacer beast, or a shoggoth. You wouldn't go for it just to say you did it?

More that I'm not sure I won't be one of the stragglers needing saving.

[ He is sure he won't be, but that doesn't fit his persona. ]

I'm not planning on just leaving people if I run into anyone. Like you said. Teamwork challenge. Also, kind of a dick move.

[counterstep]

dunno what the last two are so I can't really comment on them
def would wanna see that dragon at least

once we're in, it'll be hard to know how many are behind too so that could pose a potential problem

yeah it would be a dick move
but we've already established that people are stupid so I was trying to gauge where you preferred to place yourself

[equivo]

I think I prefer dragons when they're fictional.

[ Not that he's speaking from personal experience, or anything. ]

If the first person who made it to the end put a mark by the exit, then you'd at least have a headcount. Assuming there's only one exit, and assuming you could get everyone to do it, so actually, no. That'll be a problem.

Place me at 'smart enough to do what the AI who controls everything says'. Even if you set basic decency aside, if she says we don't make it out alone, we don't. That means you don't want to be the guy nobody likes or trusts. Not trying to sound callous, just saying: even an asshole should want to play the game right.

[counterstep]

what's fiction for you could be real in another universe, especially here
I wouldn't discount the possibility so readily, if you want to be prepared

yeah it would be nice if people were actually reliable as a whole, wouldn't it

yeah I get you
and they should as it's the best strategy to save your own skin in all this anyway
especially because the nice helper lady likes leaving out details while pretending she's only trying to help us

[equivo]

I was talking to a guy trying to call his dad in literal hell the other day. I'm kind of past ruling things out, at this point. Just hoping I get lucky on this one, I guess.

Oh, you've noticed that too? Not suspicious at all.

Wonder what the twist will be this time.

[counterstep]

( what. )

what

well
I guess it takes all kinds to save a world

yeah definitely not suspicious or weird at all how she always shuts down conversation when you ask something she doesn't want to answer too

honestly, with it being a labyrinth 'filled with challenges', I dunno if it's even gonna need much of a twist
this kind of stuff is so popular in books and movies that the twist basically writes itself into the whole scenario

[equivo]

Weirdest part was he doesn't seem like that bad of a guy.

If we're being fair to her, that's probably not a choice. Someone else programmed her. So that's whoever is being evasive.

Do you think that's where they're getting their inspiration? I guess it'd make sense. How else do you learn about humans if not looking at their stuff?

[counterstep]

may I ask who this person is?

if she's being exactly what she was programmed to be, I'd still say it's fair to be critical of her for it
her functioning exactly as she's meant to mislead and manipulate, and we can't assume that everyone's going to be able to see through that when she persists in asserting authority

yeah, feels like it
though I dunno if only humans are the ones that get stuck here either
I'm sure there are some universe that are only aliens
in their case
just the name of whatever they call themselves cause they wouldn't be aliens to themselves

[equivo]

[ Krouse weighs the value of discretion. It wasn't like Fabian wasn't telling everyone and their dog about it, so: ]

Fabian Aramais Seacaster.

I'm more critical of her as a program than a person, is what I'm getting at. But you're right. It's not a distinction most people will get, let alone care about. Why should they?

True enough. We're a diverse crowd. But whoever we are, I get the sense we're not like whoever put us here.

[counterstep]

hell of a name, that

yeah, I understand
I don't entirely disagree, but considering she's still effectively acting as propaganda, I think the moral weight still ties directly with her existence as a whole

we're lucky if Echo is really some sort of AI
but who really knows
it's the multiverse
anything can happen, apparently

[equivo]

Hell of a guy.

[ That's funny. ]

Fair enough.

Has Aurora even said Echo is an AI? All I've seen is 'Echo is Echo'. Could be they're something beyond our comprehension. Some cosmic entity from beyond the stars. Or just a very private individual.

[counterstep]

( ...yeah, that's kind of funny. )

she hasn't, but the regular implication that Echo is an entity that is wise beyond any of our cumulative years is persistent with everything she says about him

[equivo]

Yeah. It is.

But if you were running a battle royale for the fates of people's universes, you'd probably want them to think that, wouldn't you?

[counterstep]

can it really be a battle royale if the key they keep trying to impress is teamwork?

[equivo]

So far.

But I take your point. I just don't exactly have a movie reference that fits this scenario.

[counterstep]

movie reference?

( that was a movie reference??? /old )