un: blackhat | text

[equivo]

Before we all head into the labyrinth, I figure we should have a level playing field for making calls about risk.

If you die here, apparently you don't stay dead. You're down for two days or so, then you resurrect wherever your body happens to be. So it's probably a nice gesture, if you see a corpse in the maze, to drag them somewhere not totally inconvenient to wake up.

The temporarily dead also come back fully healed of injuries, but the penalty is some kind of personal loss. Think scars, tattoos, a digit, possibly more intangible qualities, etc. I have no idea what the rules are on that, so if anyone has any useful speculation, consider the floor open.

In fact, if anyone is familiar with this kind of thing back in your universes, you're invited to share with the class. The more we know about resurrection in general, maybe the more we can figure out about how it works here. Bonus marks if you have first hand experience.

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un: Panacea | text

[ontologically]

Has anyone died yet?

[equivo]

Considering the local hazards, it'd be weirder if no one had.

I don't know an exact figure, but if anyone's interested in talking about it, I'm sure they'll turn up.

[mostdangerousbird]

Resurrected how? That sounds like some sort of magical trade. People don’t lose a finger if someone uses a defibrillator on them.

[equivo]

I don’t know how it worked. It wasn’t obvious after the fact, but maybe you could get something if you observed the process.

The time delay and the impairment seem like deterrents to me, though, not a trade. I’m rusty on my fairy tales, but don’t you have to make a deal before you can make an exchange?

un: tt

[thinkerseven]

wow! so helpful. much appreciated. really sticking ur neck out for the little guy here. we should throw u a party

left on read

[equivo]

[ That's bait. ]

un: yuuki

[neverleave]

[Tattoos, huh? So Clarke's been talking to people.]

"More intangible qualities" can be memories. Nothing's safe.

Resurrection costs energy. It's never perfect. Only question is if it's inheret to the process here, or is Echo making us pay for the effort.

[equivo]

Memories. Great.

I'm guessing it's imposed by our mysterious sponsor, but that's just a guess. If it's an energy or resource issue, you'd think they could spend less on Legoland and more on life support.

text | un: theball

[stresstokens]

What was the last mission that it was deadly enough to kill one of us?

For what it's worth, resurrection is a pretty known thing where I'm from as long as you have a skilled enough Cleric and enough resources to spare. The longer someone's been dead, the harder it is to bring them back, and the more likely it is that they'll be in pretty rough shape afterwards. But I've never heard of resurrection changing your tattoos or taking away limbs or whatever. What you're describing sounds like a punishment for failure.

[equivo]

Evil clones. Be happy you missed it.

I'm thinking the same thing. It makes sense, in a fucked up way. If you make a respawn mechanic free, players will abuse it.

What kind of resources does a cleric need to bring people back from the dead? I'm trying to work out the relative costs.

un: platinumjackal

[thetombkeeper]

Define "more intangible qualities." I want to be certain I'm not being overly paranoid about this.

[equivo]

Apparently, it includes memories, so who knows what's off the table?

text | un: barnes

[counterstep]

how many dead bodies do you think people are going to run into???

if it's about teamwork, and you find a body anyway, it means someone probably abandoned them

which probably won't do well for their whole 'saving my universe' thing and seems very unlikely

[equivo]

It's a labyrinth. I'm assuming there's a minotaur. It'd be great if the number of bodies was 'zero', but I'm being realistic.

And you'd think that, but that depends on people being smart. Not everyone is really grasping the 'teamwork' concept.

text — un: willa

[infirmiere]

I was born with the ability to heal, even mortal wounds, but I've never been able to combat death once it has arrived.

Though death is quite complicated with me.

[equivo]

[ Healing powers, in Krouse's experience, are invariably complicated. It tracks. ]

That's useful to know.

Could you expand on 'complicated' re: death?

un: hawkeye

[notthatstraight]

that's useful
still going to be careful but one less thing to worry about

[That's a lie. She never thinks about the danger in the middle of things.]

people at home have returned from the dead due to all kinds of reasons
time travel, multiverse, magic, the mutants have this whole thing going on right now
so it's not completely unheard of

[equivo]

It does strike me as mildly inconvenient.

[ He has his doubts about her version of careful, but it's not his business. She can look after herself. ]

That sounds like a lot.

So is it just an expected thing? You die and you come back?

text » un: wiccan

[wiccant]

Aurora said our powers might be messed with, but if they're not messed with too badly, I can heal and teleport
Not bring people back from the dead but as long as they're not dead or too close to dying I can heal

To add to our healer count, since I noticed Willa chimed in

Also +1ing Hawkeye's "death gets complicated but it's been reversed" experience. We're from the same side of the multiverse.

[equivo]

[ A friend of Kate's who can teleport, huh? ]

Sounds like you make a good alternative to the long nap. Good to know, and appreciate the volunteering.

You wouldn't happen to be Billy, would you?

un: griffin | text

[skaikru]

( it feels like it'd be... more suspicious if she didn't say something here, right. right? so. )

Thank you for telling us, this has been insightful.

Where I'm from originally, death was just death. Where I came from just before here though, well. Yuuki covered most of it.

[equivo]

[ It's a considered move. He's not surprised she made it. He's just struck by the impulse to ask her if that means he did this right - if it's taken some small part of the weight of obligation off her shoulders.

He could send her a message. Check in, see how she's holding up. He's thought about it before now, but it never seemed appropriate.

He shouldn't be almost relieved to hear from her, especially not when it can only be a less than pleasant reminder of an evening she can't want to remember. ]

Don't thank me. I'm just passing information along.

And I didn't know you two knew each other.

[ One of her friends. One of three small crosses shoved into the dirt in the woods. ]

Death's like that where I'm from. Final. Apparently, we're not as much the norm as I'd have thought.

un: Storm;

[agoddessonce]

[ Goddess above, she never thought the ethics of resurrection would follow her even here. ]

Someone has already brought up mutant resurrection protocols. I would prefer not to discuss the specifics here on the open network without proper encryption, but yes - it is a known method in our home universe.

It is also not the only way to return from death. There exist many other ways "back" from the afterlife. My best friends and closest loved ones have all died and come back. In various ways. I think it is fair to say that there is no one way to summarize "how it works."

[equivo]

Understandable.

Do you think you could share the options you're aware of anything? Not necessarily in detail, if that doesn't work for you, but who knows what will help, right? I'm just trying to figure out the mechanics here. Maybe there's a way to circumvent the negative effects if we have alternatives.

un: 🔪

[onlychildsyndrome]

how do you know?

[equivo]

I didn't die personally, if that's what you're asking.

un: deku | text | cw: body horror

[wannasmash]

i saw the combination of two bodies into one, and then separation again, but i have no information on what the effect on the souls could be or if the victim could even be considered dead at any time.

i spoke with the person who did it. they seemed to be the way they always were before, during, and after, except for gaining extra body mass and using the other person's power, and the expected aftereffects of such a violent experience.

it could be i'm only talking about a near-death experience here. it was only for a few minutes at most, not 2 days. but we can't rule out advanced reversal of a medical condition here. true resurrection doesn't exist in my world, but human bodies have gone beyond the expected limits.

[equivo]

[ Jesus fucking Christ. ]

That's a hell of a power.

I'm also assuming it's some kind of advanced reversal of the medical condition of 'dead'. It's the specifics of how that happens I'm curious about. I'm not a doctor, but there's a lot that goes into a person being alive in the first place. Bringing someone back means recreating all of that, and doing it well enough it's still recognizably the same person who comes back - more or less.

un: everybodysoracle

[furiousfists]

I suppose it would be pointless to ask if we know the means or method of these resurrections?

[ She would love to narrow down whether the magic in charge of this place is Arcane or Divine in nature. Being a wizard, you can guess which one she's hoping for. But resurrection and revivification are typically under the domain of the divine... That is, unless necromancy is involved. ]

How sure are we that the people who've come back from death are truly alive once more, and not... Well, you know. Undead.

[equivo]

[ Krouse recognizes that username. The third party member. Considering the other two, Krouse is inclined to an early potentially positive impression. ]

Afraid so. That's one of the things I'd also like to figure out.

They seemed alive, but given what 'undead' encompasses, I can't exactly say for sure.

[ One of them was technically already undead, but Krouse isn't broadcasting Natsuno's business like that, even if he was casual about admitting he was a vampire. It's the principle of the thing. ]

You could ask people to come forward so you could check it out. Someone would eventually take you up on it.

text; un: blake

[plangona]

Are you talking from experience or you know someone this happened to? [this is something she already knows about because of clarke but still it's an interesting topic of conversation with the upcoming mission ]

[equivo]

Why does everyone want to know if I died, personally?

It's secondhand information.