text; un: geraniums

[rootlessly]

Ah, hello everyone! I'm Vash, one of the new arrivals. It's nice to meet everyone :)

Forgive me if this has been asked before, but has anyone actually met Echo or gotten a chance to speak with them? Because I was thinking, there's so many of us from so many different places, and between all of us I'm sure there's a solution Echo hasn't found where nobody needs to lose a universe, right? Echo's just one person, after all--there must be some angles to this situation they haven't even considered yet, and if enough of us approached them at once, maybe they'd hear us out.

Thanks for your time!!

Comments

un: Panacea | text

[ontologically]

I doubt Echo is really a "person." Not in the way anyone here would understand it.

[Maybe it could be reasoned with. But this level of optimism gives Amy a headache.]

[rootlessly]

What do you mean?

[ontologically]

Personal experience with interdimensional world eating monsters is that they tend to be a little incomprehensible in their thinking.

It's not the same situation, but it's easier to think of them as... computer programs.

text, un: hawkeye

[westcoasts]

there is a lot of us.

( and is there any guarantee all of them are who they say they are, hmm? hmmm. )

I'd be wary about taking too much of what we're being told by Aurora at face value.

[rootlessly]

You think it's a lie?

[It's possible. They have been taken forcibly without being asked, after all, so the assumption that things are being presented in good faith isn't necessarily sound. Still, Vash isn't sure there's any specific reason to disbelieve, either.]

What makes you say that?

un: asano

[revengeisalie]

Hi, Vash! Welcome. I suppose. It's not great to be here, but... well, we should help each other, right? My name is Rin.

No sight of Echo on my part so far. I'm not sure they're really one to be discussed with.

[rootlessly]

I completely agree! It's nice to meet you, Rin. Thank you for the welcome :)

How long have you been here? It seems surprising that the one who brought us here hasn't shown themselves, yet.

[Like, if it was a kidnapping, wouldn't the person have shown up to observe their captives by now? There's no guards or anything, either.]

un: sandalphon

[prevail]

I can't say that I have, and none of us appear to be well-informed.

[rootlessly]

That's too bad. Do you think Aurora might be willing to tell us more about Echo if we approached her instead?

un: everybodysoracle

[furiousfists]

It sounds to me like Echo is some kind of extraplanar being or deity, to have the kind of power that they've been demonstrated to have, in bringing us all here. Whether that means they actually have the power to do what they say they're going to do, and destroy multiple universes that haven't proven themselves "worthy" by whatever standards Echo has presented... Well, I think that remains to be seen.

Oh, and I'm Adaine. Hi.

[rootlessly]

[The real fun bit here is that Plants like Vash are also connected to another plane of existence? Not that Vash understands very much about that aspect of his own abilities right now, so he mostly just sounds intrigued.]

You think they used a special ability of some kind? Have you had experience with beings like that?

un: midori

[killed]

Sou Hiyori. It's a pleasure.

Are you certain that they can directly communicate with us? I have to wonder myself.

[rootlessly]

Why wouldn't they be able to communicate with us?

un: blake

[plangona]

no one has.

so far, aurora is the only one we've been able to communicate with.

[rootlessly]

That's strange, isn't it? Keeping themselves hidden isn't exactly a great way to encourage participation.

( text | un: kent )

[anewhope]

I think we're all — echo included — operating on limited knowledge and some faith.

[rootlessly]

I think you're right, but it'd go a long way to cementing that faith if we could actually talk to Echo.

text | un: barnes

[counterstep]

I think from the get go there was always the general implication that Echo isn't really a person as such
but that's just the feeling I got

proper nouns tend to give things more power than they'd hold otherwise anyway

[rootlessly]

Someone else suggested that, too. I'm not really sure what it'd mean, though. I've only really ever dealt with people doing this kind of thing

Unless you can count a sandstorm as a kidnapper anyway :) hahaha

[It's a joke but the sandstorms on No Man's Land are vicious, okay. Easy enough to get lost in that it still kind of counts.]

un: asuka

[redheadcarrier]

why would I? she's just a fancy computer. probably just following whatever instructions she's been programmed with. she's not gonna say anything useful.

[rootlessly]

[Vash, from a world in which his own kind were engineered to generate various products for humanity, with himself and his brother the only ones born able to walk and communicate freely, is not quite prepared, perhaps, to grapple with the question of whether or to what degree a "computer program" that seems as advanced as Aurora or (possibly) Echo might have agency. Instead:]

We don't know that for sure. And besides, even if that's true, then if we could make contact, then maybe we can find out who programmed them and why, or even make our case to them directly.

text; un: MAXIMUMLEGEND

[maximumlegend]

are you sure echo is even necessarily good at all??

[ Of course Fabian is operating under the usual Bad Kids standard: suspect every single adult you ever come across. ]

what if we are just being lied to

[rootlessly]

I'm not.

[He won't sugarcoat that; there's nothing they have to go on but goodwill. Even so.]

But I'd rather not assume bad faith until we know more.

un: drividot (pretend this isn't late, i got sick!)

[gibbetgallowsguillotine]

I feel the same. There must be a way to save all worlds... Though I admit I hadn't considered force of numbers in this approach.

no worries, i hope you're feeling better!

[rootlessly]

It is pretty overwhelming, isn't it? I hadn't even realized there were multiple universes before now!